So here I am, curious to know about what moe means to you voters. But it’s not just moe in general. I want to know any specific, narrowed done thoughts you might have so I thought up some questions for this mini-project (as I’d like to call it) of SoMT. The ones who will be leading the discussions first? My co-hosts. Cuz believe it or not, it’s not because Xiao is busy managing this contest…she
is very lazy only has a rather misty opinion of moe. Not enough solidity to go on a rant about (OMGNOWAI~! And you wonder why she’s running this contest) so I want to expand my views from everyone else’s opinions. Plus, it’s easier to read than to write anyways~ *supah lazy* :D
Perhaps it might be a bit silly to some of you cuz of “Ugh, not discussions, just get on with the tournament!” but it’s not. Sure, it’s one thing to vote but like in the real SaiMoe, aren’t voters encouraged to contribute as much support as they can for the candidates? Well, now’s your chance to really promote the moe qualities of your favorites. Use it. Maybe you’ll even change someone’s mind on a certain girl who they didn’t find moe before (heck, that’s just what happened to me just yesterday). Get more people to support your choice.
And then we’ll overtake the world’s governments with that. 8D
Are you a true shoujo-moe fan or not?! >8(
Oh, before I forget, congratulations to Fuyu-san and 7-san on their graduations. I know Fuyu-san doesn’t graduate until June 4th but still congrats again for that AND on finding a job. ^^ And yay, 7-san, seems like that awful dean wasn’t that much of a bitch after all. :)
Last but not least, I think kanzie, your college life is about to start next month? Sorry if I’m wrong but best of wishes and luck to ya and hope you enjoy it to the fullest
when you’re not swamped in papers ^^;.
Yep! Now onto our first question:
What aspects of shoujo do you like the most when it comes to the genre bringing the moe out of the character? Or maybe, in other words, what does the moe in shoujo works have that the moe in other demographics (shounen, seinen, and so on) don’t and why do those appeal to you?
Of course, the moe in shoujo should be fitting to its very own demography. When we think of what shoujo has, we have bubbles, sparkles and flower petals falling in our minds, isn’t that correct? The girl that can be a chameleon (lol not literally XP) and can make all these aspects work along with her moe-ness is the most fitting to win this tournament.
So what if she’s so cute? “Cute” is so damn common already in Seinen and even in shounen. Remember that we should find the “cute” for shoujo, and that is the girl that is soft, in terms of how shoujo really is, and also strong in terms of having a very memorable personality. (Always keep in mind about the shoujo sparkles and flowers!!!)~
I think shoujo moe is most typically separated from moe geared at boys with the main difference being “ganbatte!” vs. “Oh, the poor girl needs help.” The shoujo girls usually have their problems but they aren’t all solved by some bland protagonist, they grow stronger (due to help from others yes), but the point is by the end of the story (often before then) they can pick themselves up and do what has to be done. They still fail sometimes, which has to be admitted is totally cute, but then they pick themselves up over and over again. This is shown incredibly well by our queen of shoujo moe Sakura again where, “Everything will be all right” ruled the day!
Of course as a girl this appeals to me greatly. I get my dose of cuteness and the GIRL POWER that I want to see to show that girls aren’t just helpless things that need to be rescued. They too can be the most powerful magician/whatever in the world. (I keep going back to Sakura-chan again~) Personally I also have a preference of seeing a girl become stronger and able to do things by her own strength where in other genres the girl will become more dependant on someone, which can be good when she used to be a tsundere bitch, but come on. Boys just want to think that a girl can go all gooey for them and that sucks. It’s called teamwork! Relationships thrive on equality.
But oh my that’s straying into shipping territory. In shoujo I also get more genki-ness and specifically “warmth” and you can’t like shoujo girls unless you can appreciate the shoujo smile. I love the “pure” girls you get in shoujo when that aspect doesn’t have to be compromised to please the stupid shallow fanboys.
Of course those aren’t the only things that can make a shoujo girl more. There’s also other various moe things in different characters, otherwise they’d all be the same. A little bit of tsundere is almost always welcome, especially in shoujo where the random violence is usually not present. And in shoujo it’s usually all toned down a bit which is what I like. A girl that’s just moe isn’t moe. She’s pandering fanboy bait and I don’t like her.
In all honesty, I don’t think I’ve ever sensed moeness out of all the aforementioned demographics. I guess there may be extremely rare instances, but that doesn’t change the fact that it will be very difficult for me to answer the question with limited knowledge. But in actuality, the answer is in the question itself: for me, shoujo and all its aspects are made specifically to bring the moe out of any potential character. Sure moe can exist in some other genres outside of shoujo, but I often find it hard to imagine moe’s the only thing brought out of the character. Moe in shounen, seinen, etc? Pfft, forget it! They’re most likely corrupted with perversion and whatnots, which then brings me to what I like about shoujo moe. Referring back to my definition of moe some billion years ago, when I said moe should be mostly (if not completely) about a sense of adoration, I find shoujo to be only thing that will make me adore a character. And no…adoration for me doesn’t simply mean awwww-inducing, which is probably the case for a lot of moe characters outside shoujo; it has to be deeply emotional…not intellectual, and certainly not hormonal/glandular (which I’m unfortunately included, as well as 50% of the world). Long story short..shoujo works best.
…*reads*…*nods*…I want to compile all this and make a book out of it or something. Maybe after the tournament is over. I’ll give all due credit, of course. Lawl~ |D
Aaahhh~, muchos gracias, you guys! They were really awesome to read. Can’t wait to hear more of your thoughts on the next prompt. ^^
As you can probably guess from the name, Moe Spotlight gives you the chance to look in on ONE specific contestant’s moe traits. Unlike in the tournament, where you’ll often have to compare two girls against each other, here, your only focus is the girl we present before you. What makes her moe? Why was she nominated for this tournament? Do you find her moe at all?
And our first
victim Moe Spotlight girl in the (two-month) history of SoMT is…
What our hosts have to say…
Lol this one’s quite difficult XD When I get to see Akira, I find her not being moe at all, but thanks to Xiao Jie for putting her in the spotlight, I got to examine a certain trait of this girl that I find her having potential to be moe.
The thing that came right into my mind is “When you like moe, can you be moe too?” since Akira’s a character that likes her “moe” best friend Hikari (well, she likes her so much for obvious glomping reasons on her). When you show a huge infatuation or adoration to someone, it totally makes her moe because she also gets all hyped up on everything her best friend is involved in. She gets crazy, and crazy not in a bad way, because she added so much life in Special A. That’s moe already. Akira’s genki-ness and total high energy makes her moe. And last but definitely not the least, girl knows how to bake yummy sweets~~ ^__^.
Actually my first reaction was, “Akira’s not moe…” but then I remembered that I nominated her so she must be. I am too strict to not have seen some moe in Akira. It turned out that I was just forgetful about Akira because she always felt like the most forgettable character in SA to me. Her humor mostly relied on violence and her story was too quick. But that doesn’t stop her from being moe.
To start with, apparently there must be something moe about the girls who are all crazy about other girls because they’re popping up in VNs these days too (just with bigger bewbs). But personally I don’t find that moe, I just find it awesome, so who knows it could be there for the entertainment factor. I’m not a fanboy, I don’t know what they find moe.
However, what’s certainly moe about Akira is her embarrassment. Getting embarrassed is always moe, it’s like the very thing that can define moe! Shy girls will have all sorts of adorable embarrassed reactions, they’ll get quiet, they’ll stutter, they’ll just turn red and make cute noises. All of that is moe. Then you turn to tsundere and embarrassment will cause the typical tsundere reaction, “It’s not like I like you or anything…” MOE~! Oh and of course cooldere girls with their fake coolness, when they get embarrassed it’s an emotion! And the more embarrassed they get the cuter they are and…ah! Embarrassment is moe.
Of course Akira gets embarrassed when it comes to who she likes. This will make her act violently and tsundere or often it will be the rare case where she’s actually quiet. Moments of a personality change (which embarrassment so often causes) are almost always moe. So Akira is totally moe. It’s that simple.
I feel like I suddenly like Akira again…only now she has a new, different light shining on her.
Thank you, girls, for the awesome insight. It helped a lot. ~ω^
Ok, now I want to know what all you readers out there think? Come, come. Don’t be shy. Even one or two sentences will be fine. Nobody’s going to bite you and if they dare, I have my branding iron all hot and ready to burn the idiot’s ass off. hehehehe >83
…*cough* Nah, j/k, but I just want everyone to know that what applied to the commenting rules in the voting rounds will also apply to here as well.
You WILL respect everyone’s opinions no matter how much you disagree about what they think. I am not saying that you can’t voice out your opposing opinion if you have one. By all means, as long as you do it with decency, go ahead and share it with us. This is a discussion after all. But do not, I repeat, DO NOT degradingly bash the characters or other participants just because of your own bias. I know it’s rather hard to distinguish criticism from that sometimes but if you seriously have nothing constructively good to say, then don’t say it.
And don’t spam either.
You’re on my turf and these are my rules. They’re not hard to follow but that doesn’t mean I won’t be strict about it.
Now, before I end this, a quick poll (choices completely selected at random):
This poll will close on Sunday, May 31st.
I look forward to your comments and the results for Round 1 and the start of Round 2 should be posted up by tomorrow.
Hope you enjoyed this so far! ^^